My Comments and Concerns about GT300 and RV8xx GPUs
Hey guys, Icarus here again. Sorry for the late post!
Today, I’m going to give somewhat of a midpoint in my discussion of the GT300 and the RV810, RV840, and R870 GPUs by giving you some of my own comments and concerns about these GPUs.
So, to start out, here are some things I want to discuss:
1. Viability of DX11 and these GPUs
2. Time it will take to transition completely into DX11
3. How will these GPUs affect us in the future?
So, let’s begin!
1. Viability of DX11 and these GPUs
So, first up is viability. I don’t know about you, but when we were making the transition from DX9 to DX10, we took a little bit longer than we planned to. There were some technical difficulties, and price gouging was always a problem.
So far, AMD hasn’t had any technical difficulties(that they’ve announced at least) and NVidia has had a 20% yield set back on their new GT300 GPUs. But I’m guessing this is from their recent concentration on the mobile GPU industry.
My worry about jumping so quickly into DX11 is that AMD and/or NVidia may be so neck-to-neck in competition that they start creating pieces of technology that aren’t compatible with each other(like AMD GPUs on NVidia motherboards). This will, in turn, make integrating both worlds in our PCs more difficult, and maybe even more expensive.
My other concern is that, although it almost never happens, that both companies may try to advance in tech so quickly that they might look over some major quality issues. Quality is always an issue with mass production, and we don’t want anymore problems.
2. Time it will Take to Transition into DX11
I’ve heard that AMD has already asked some game companies to start creating games that will go with DX11.
But doesn’t this sound a little bit suspicious? If there’s something majorly different between AMD and NVidia GPUs, it means that you won’t be able to play some games!
But back to the topic. I really don’t think it will take long, give or take half a year. We’re advancing in technology so quickly that things that come out are already out-of-date.
However, we won’t truly know how long it will take until some more specs on the GPUs and the benchmarks on the combination between DX11 and the new GPUs come out. Then we will be able to give some more accurate feedback to you.
3. The Effect of these GPUs in the Future
Every single new GPU, the GT300 and the RV800 series, are extremely promising. Combined with DX11, there is unlimited potential there.
Also keep in mind that the GPUs may be the future “processor” of the whole computer. GPUs are becoming so powerful that theyalmost match, or they already, match the power of the CPU. Who knows, maybe CPUs will disappear and GPUs will take its throne.
GPUs can also make games and videos more realistic. From now on, I believe that it will be a competition more in quality than quantity. If a GPU is powerful enough, you don’t need two or three. That’s just a waste.
Well, that’s all I got for tonight! Hope you guys enjoyed my post!
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NVidia’s GT300 and DX11
Hey guys, Icarus here again!
Since yesterday I talked about AMD’s side of DX11, I’m going to talk about NVidia and its plans for DX11.
So here are some questions you might have:
1. Who’s currently “ahead”? NVidia or AMD?
2. Who will come out with a DX11 compatible GPU first?
3. What the heck is the GT300?
Ok, and I’m going to answer one at a time.
Who’s Currently Ahead?
Well, in my opinion, NVidia is currently ahead, but not by much.
I put NVidia ahead only because of the fact that NVidia’s latest GPU’s are just ridiculous. Their benchmarks are ridiculous(along with their price tags of course), and they completely astonish us with how much they can do.
On the other hand, when an ATI 4890(the lastest ATI GPU) and NVidia’s 275 GTX was pitted against each other, they were fairly similar. This means that the 295 GTX will overpower the 4890 by quite a lot.
Who will Come Out with a DX11 Compatible GPU First?
This question is one of those things that no one can absolutely predict.
However, I am giving this honor to AMD. Recently, NVidia announced that its new GT300 series, the first DX11 compatible NVidia GPUs, is giving around 20% yield.
Yes, you saw that number correctly. That’s even less than my worst yield in a science lab!
But the point is, NVidia is no where near releasing their new products. On the other hand, AMD seems to be going pretty well according to schedule, and they are already in the process of having video game companies program new games to suit their new GPUs.
So, I predict that AMD will release the first DX11 compatible GPU first.
What the Heck is the GT300?
The GT300 is NVidia’s first DX11-compatible graphics cards.
We don’t have much information as of yet, but so far, it’s not looking so good for NVidia. They’re having some technical issues pertaining to layout and leaks, so they’re probably going to have to delay releasing it.
From what I’ve seen and read, I’m hoping that NVidia releases the GT300 sometime early 2010. But they’re going to AT LEAST delay until then.
Well that’s it for today! Hope you guys enjoyed this post!
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The History of CPU’s and GPU’s
Have you ever thought of a day when only a CPU or GPU controlled the whole system, and the other option was not there anymore? Recently, I have. It’s Icarus here again, and I’m just going to start this out by talking about the two: CPU’s and GPU’s.
This thought came to mind when I was thinking about the recent court case between Intel and NVidia, fighting over licensing rights for developing chipsets that supported the Core i7 Nehalem processors. Intel is the processor powerhouse, and NVidia is a large GPU competitor against ATI.
Now, years and years ago, when computers were still at lower levels, and Intel was competing against stronghold AMD with its new Pentium processors, not much was integrated; memory controllers were in a separate location on the motherboard, memory was still controlled via the memory controller, there was only DDR memory, and the GPU was at its separate location, receiving commands from the CPU. Initially, a computer could not work without a CPU or a GPU; the computer had to have both. You’d definitely need a CPU to send commands to other components through the motherboard for the computer to even function, and you’d need a GPU to have a display to look at.
As developers and manufacturers created new and better computer hardware at an alarming rate, things started to become integrated; AMD went on to be the first to include the on-die memory controller in its CPU’s, NVidia was established and began to create its own GPU’s, Intel began the development of the Core2 series, and motherboard chipsets became more and more advanced for CPUs to be able to process and send commands and data to components of the computers more quickly. CPU’s and GPU’s developed at a neck-to-neck rate, and both were progressively becoming much more powerful and efficient.
And now, here we are today, with the Core i7 Nehalmen processors, ATI’s popular 4870 X2 and NVidia’s GTX 295 GPU’s, one with 2 GPU’s on one graphics card and the latter with one powerful GPU. Intel now includes its on-die memory controller in the CPU itself, and now there’re motherboards with integrated GPU’s powerful enough to produce a good display on monitors. Everything is becoming INTEGRATED.
So, what’s next on the menu? Well, I’m going to talk about the hypothetical situations I thought of when either the CPU or GPU completely takes control of a computer, meaning that one can live without the other(CPU won’t even need on-board integrated GPU).
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Issue between Intel and NVidia
Hey guys, Icarus here. I’ve recently been reading up on the issue between Intel and NVidia more, and since they’ve gone to court on Thursday, I thought I’d shed light on what the issue is here.
So basically, this all started when NVidia released plans of the future about developing motherboard chipsets that will support Intel’s new Core i7 Nehalem architecture. Intel tried to talk NVidia out of going with this plan, but NVidia kept its plan and began the development of a new motherboard chipset that would let NVidia fans use Core i7 processors on NVidia chipsets, allowing the fans to hold the power of the Core i7 and Tri-SLI GPU’s.
However, Intel didn’t want NVidia to go on with the plans, and took this case to court, saying that NVidia does not have the license to create chipsets that support Intel’s new QPI(QuickPath Interconnect) system and integrated memory-controller technology. But NVidia says that they have a few-years old license that allows them to do the exact thing.
But what’s really the issue here? It’s really just Intel trying to hold its advantage, among other things. Currently, ONLY Intel’s X58 motherboard chipset supports Intel’s incredibly powerful Corei7 Nehalem processors. Basically, Intel has a sort of a monopoly going on in the Core i7 industry, because they develop and manufacture both the processors and the motherboards that work together.
Now, NVidia wants a piece of the cake. In the previous years, NVidia has successfully developed chipsets that supported the Core2 series of processors(680i, 780i, 790i Ultra, among others), and they have been extremely popular, competing well against Intel’s own chipsets(P35, X48, P45, etc.). And now, Intel has unleashed a processor that outperforms many of the Core 2 processors that cost a lot more than the Core i7 processors. NVidia is definitely hungry for a large piece of this new series of processors, and is now trying to do the same thing it succeeded in doing during the reign of the Core2 processors.
So, here’s the summary of what Intel would lose if NVidia succeeds in developing their new chipset:
1. Intel would lose the advantage of saying that their X58 motherboards are the only motherboards that support Core i7 processors
2. Intel will no longer be able to have an edge over NVidia with the Core i7 and X58 motherboard, because NVidia will be able to create chipsets that allow both Core i7 and Tri-SLI graphics cards to work in unison. X58 motherboards only support up to SLI.
Well, that’s all for tonight. Tomorrow, I’m going to be talking about a bigger issue arising: processors vs graphics cards.
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Why Upgrade to a High-End NVidia or ATI Graphics Card?
Hey guys, Icarus here. While I was looking around, reading up on articles about recent developments in computer hardware, and I thought of a particular topic: graphics cards.
We all love graphics cards because they make our screens much prettier; if we buy better graphics cards, we can use it on larger monitors to play our games and watch our movies. We also get bragging rights for getting the highest 3DMark score amongst our group of friends. But does this really matter?
Recently, I’ve noticed a trend in the connection between the graphics card industry and the computer gaming industry: graphics cards develop at a much faster pace than the computer games do. You see, constantly, graphics card manufacturers releasing newer and better graphics cards, adding 50 or 100 or even 1000 to their previous number(hahaha…). And yes, game companies do release brand new games each year, good and bad, high-end and low-end graphics, intense and boring plot lines.
All that is good, except the part where I mentioned before: the graphics card industry is developing at a much faster pace. I mean, if you look at some of the benchmarks for the high-end graphics cards, they churn out FPS(frames per second) so much higher than 40 FPS that it doesn’t really matter how much more you’re getting over 40. Once you get more than 40FPS, the human eye can’t really distinguish between 50FPS and 60FPS. So what’s the point of buying a high-end NVidia or ATI graphics card if a lower graphics card can get the job done just fine?
If you’re thinking about upgrading right now, I don’t really think it’s the time. Let’s say you have a 9800GTX, a good graphics card now-a-days at a good price. That card can take on most games well, and if you’re thinking about upgrading just so it feels good, I wouldn’t do that. Even if it’s for playing higher-end games(Crysis comes up at the top of my head), I still wouldn’t do it. You can always lower the quality just a bit, and play it at a playable FPS. And in the economic situation we are all in right now, I think that’s more than enough.
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